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#199652 - 01/15/08 11:02 PM Re: Romans 8:38-39 [Re: weapher]
evanesence Offline

Registered: 12/08/07
Posts: 119
i guess forgivness is a personal thing ,a lot like faith different for everyone, i hear it so often that god has to forgive us, the survivor ! for what? for surviving? i agree with james that there should be conditions met to even consider forgiving ,but it has to be up to the individual to forgive or not , does anybody seriously think an i'm sorry is enough? i have heard it says in the bible an eye for an eye,has to be the one thing in there that i could agree with ,don't leave much room for forgivness.why should i waste one second of time that i could use to fight this shit ,wondering if i should forgive my abusers? no, they took enough from me already and i refuse to ask god to forgive me for surviving any way i could up till now.

#199678 - 01/16/08 01:11 AM Re: Romans 8:38-39 [Re: weapher]
Coach Offline

Registered: 11/05/07
Posts: 29
Loc: California

God chooses to do certain things that remain a mystery. Whatever the term (Cause, Permit, Allow, Ordain, Etc.) Specifically, in the context of Job's sufferings they were used of God to test and refine Job's character.

As questionable as it may sound-why can't the same thing able to abuse victim's? That concept may tweak the mind abit. God works in mysterious ways.

I believe that God is more in control rather than shift the responsibility over to Satan.


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