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#19891 - 01/22/02 07:50 PM Dr. Gartners Group
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Registered: 12/29/01
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HI,



I asked if you had any openings in your group and you said to call you.

However a lot of people read this website and your group is only one of two groups listed in this website so if you could just let us know if you have an opening at this time people will know to call you or not if they are interested in a group.

Why call if there is not an opening?


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#19892 - 01/23/02 01:28 AM Re: Dr. Gartners Group
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Hello Howaboutthis,

Dr. Gartner asked you to call him. Please respect his wishes. As he indicated it's best to call him or any therapist directly to talk about listed services.


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#19893 - 01/23/02 01:54 PM Re: Dr. Gartners Group
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Why can't Dr. Gartner speak for himself?


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#19894 - 01/23/02 05:45 PM Re: Dr. Gartners Group
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It looks like he did speak for himself, he asked for a phone call. Sounds simple to me. How hard is a phone call.

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#19895 - 01/24/02 04:57 PM Re: Dr. Gartners Group
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Hi,

There are very few therapists who specialize in men's sexual abuse therapy. There are also few groups that deal with the same topic.

The people who seek therapy of this type therefore have limited resources to use.

If a therapist advertises a group, the group is not composed of 100 people, or 50 people, but probably 5-15 people maximum. Therefore unless the therapist has 10 different groups going the likelihood of there being an opening for a group is very slim especially for the hundreds of people who are registered and/or visit this website.

So a sexually abused male who seeks therapy is already in a compromised postion due to very limited resources. Therefore the least a therapist could do, especially one registered at this website and vice president of NOMSV, is to not further dissapoint a person who is already dissapointed with the severe lack of services for males is to at least indicate whether his group actually has an opening before having a lot of people call him only to be possibly disappointed again and maybe be re-traumatized.

So I feel that Dr. Gartner should indicate in his registration information whether or not he has an opening. He could date that and then update it as necessary.

I do not think that would take much time and would do a great service to sexually abused men.


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#19896 - 01/24/02 08:03 PM Re: Dr. Gartners Group
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I'm 53 and figger that I will be long dead before there is equal help for male and female sexual abuse survivors!!! What did they say about a set of wheels and the sounds they put out when they turn...you live there...keep it up.... and you..he will take!!! Let us know what happens!

Eddie


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