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#197858 - 01/04/08 09:20 AM
Re: A difficult question to me about homosexuality
[Re: LandOfShadow]
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Member MaleSurvivor
Registered: 01/26/07
Posts: 386
Loc: Ohio
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I think he means Same Sex Attraction?
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#197877 - 01/04/08 11:37 AM
Re: A difficult question to me about homosexuality
[Re: cbfull]
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Registered: 12/31/07
Posts: 27
Loc: Pennsylvania, USA
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I read a book about this once. It was called 'Coming Out Straight' and was written by an ex-homosexual man. The theme of the book was healing. It's position is that men who grow up without a father figure are more likely to be homosexual due to the need to identify with their gender. The yearning for a father figure becomes a sexual need and some homosexuals feel satisfied when they have sex with other men. Others fall apart, feel guilty. The book was easy to read and well written. I dont agree with everything it says but I do see how people troubled with their orientation can get relief - By allowing themselves to realize that their lack of a nurturing father was not their fault and they do not have to call themselves gay for needing what every man a needs. Links: http://www.amazon.com/Coming-Out-Straight-Understanding-Homosexuality/dp/1886939470http://www.arr-the-kraken.com/straight/
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#198034 - 01/05/08 10:31 AM
Re: A difficult question to me about homosexuality
[Re: Eric5]
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Registered: 08/16/05
Posts: 1674
Loc: Moscow, Russia
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Thanks Eric,
This makes sense to me. Still Irealize that is one valid and possible explanation.
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#198097 - 01/05/08 04:56 PM
Re: A difficult question to me about homosexuality
[Re: alexey]
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Registered: 11/10/04
Posts: 781
Loc: North Texas
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Hi Alexey, its my understanding that the overbearing mother/distant father, psychological theory had pretty much been disproved. While this book is getting old, it is a good start on the subject. The Sexual Brain by Simon LeVay Try and get it at your library. In general, they are now leaning towards, a gay gene, or several genes that when combined causes a gay person. The other theory is that something goes wrong inside the mothers Womb while she is pregnant. Ether way there would be no choose for the person who is gay. Edit, here is a good article about it. What Makes People Gay? By Neil Swidey | August 14, 2005 Take care, Clifford
Edited by lostcowboy (01/05/08 06:25 PM)
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#198098 - 01/05/08 05:04 PM
Re: A difficult question to me about homosexuality
[Re: lostcowboy]
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Registered: 12/08/07
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something goes wrong?wow sounds kinda homophobic to me ! not your response cowboy ,just the theroy.
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#198127 - 01/05/08 09:37 PM
Re: A difficult question to me about homosexuality
[Re: FormerTexan]
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Registered: 12/08/07
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i'm not gay either ,it's just hard to believe anyone would try to say it was something wrong with the mothers body ,that made somebody gay ,what if your bisexual ?mother must have dropped you on your head ?it's kinda funny really ,but if i was gay it would piss me off.
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#198133 - 01/05/08 10:47 PM
Re: A difficult question to me about homosexuality
[Re: evanesence]
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Member MaleSurvivor
Registered: 12/11/07
Posts: 683
Loc: Minneapolis, Minnesota USA
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I guess it depends if you are going to persecute an entire large group of people for something that happens "naturally", i.e. "goes wrong". Lot's of things "go wrong" with people. Do we persecute people with poor vision, cleft palate, hemophilia, etc.??
What pisses me off is the political fear mongering (they want your children!!), the extreme prejudices and fears without factual basis, and ignorance (fears of catching AIDS by touching, etc). That's what has gone wrong. Same sex attraction is just a natural phenomena, for whatever cause.
Looking for causes in our culture is usually prejudice in disguise.
As for "they knew he was gay as young as 5", people seem to mean, looking back, they and/or others recognized something different in themselves, often something about accepting gender roles. The boy who loves to dress up in costumes, somewhat feminine or sissy, likes dolls. Or the girl who liked playing with trucks in the sandbox, tomboys. Didn't work for me. Nothing's simple here.
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