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#194018 - 12/06/07 08:52 AM
Re: death
[Re: Jarrad]
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Site Administrator MaleSurvivor
Registered: 09/12/04
Posts: 9963
Loc: Denver, CO
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Jarrad,
This can be an awkward subject and I suspect many fear coming across as calloused in their approach. Many may not wish to discuss it since it implies there is no hope they can offer. It sounds here though that you are simply asking informational questions.
I think a will is not a bad idea. Being single with no kids, I often wonder who I will leave all my stuff to when its my time to go. There are a couple kids in town whom I love and want to make their lives easier come my time to go. They can take my assets, sell them off, and use the funds to further their lives in some way. Do you know anyone in a similar fashion?
I plan to go for cremation since I understand it is the least inexpensive method of "burial." I figure whoever has to take care of that, why take a piece of land when it's cheaper to do a cremation? Perhaps a memorial stone at the local cemetary, but otherwise I don't plan on burial.
Andy
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#194023 - 12/06/07 09:27 AM
Re: death
[Re: FormerTexan]
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Member MaleSurvivor
Registered: 04/01/07
Posts: 108
Loc: Illinois, USA
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Jarrad,
Some type of will is needed if you don't want the state to dictate what happens to your personal assets / belongings. As for your remains, I believe that if nobody claims them, the state buries the body.
In Virginia, for example, once a body is declared unclaimed, the local sheriff's department arranges for a state burial. The state provides $1,875 for a cloth-covered pine casket and burial plot.
If you don't have a family to cover the costs of a private funeral, your will can dictate what happens to your remains. There are websites that can also answer some of these questions for you.
Everyone should consider these things, not just those who are ill, elderly, or whatnot. I might get hit by a bus on my way home today - without a will - a lot of things will be more complicated for those that survive me.
-AJC
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#194052 - 12/06/07 10:47 AM
Re: death
[Re: sabata]
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Member MaleSurvivor
Registered: 03/24/07
Posts: 543
Loc: Boulder, Colorado
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Once again, Jarrad, bravo to you - this is a hard subject for so many, but we are ALL going to die eventually. I think planning for what you want is a great idea. I have a friend who is a ChildLife Specialist - she works in a chidren's hospital - one of her jobs is to sit with terminally ill kids and plan their funerals - she says it is so great, because the kids all have specific ideas of what they would like... what kind of music, where it's going to be held, etc.
I think if you do not have a lot of assests, getting a will drawn up is pretty reasonible... and in that you can have a living will - what you want done as far as life sustaining measures in case you are not capable of making those wants known - it will help friends know what you want if those decisions become necessary.
Thanks again for bringing this up - we are all working hard on getting male sexaul abuse out of the shadows, helping gays and lesbians be more excepted, but we forget one of the biggest taboos of our culture is death...
Dan
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#194060 - 12/06/07 11:04 AM
Re: death
[Re: dannym]
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Member MaleSurvivor
Registered: 02/16/07
Posts: 5974
Loc: A NATO Nation
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I have a friend who is a ChildLife Specialist - she works in a chidren's hospital - one of her jobs is to sit with terminally ill kids and plan their funerals OK....I'm ready to pass-out from just reading her job de>
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#194064 - 12/06/07 11:23 AM
Re: death
[Re: Still]
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Administrator Emeritus MaleSurvivor
Registered: 05/02/05
Posts: 22045
Loc: Carlisle, PA
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Jarrad,
Issues like a funeral and cremation/burial are such personal matters I doubt anyone could really advise you in any detail. In the gay community, however, there must be guys who have had to go through funeral arrangements for partners or friends and could give you some ideas.
My sister's neighbors were two great gay guys, and one was dying of cancer (he died in the spring). As I recall, they discussed funeral arrangements in advance and it helped the cancer victim a lot to participate in deciding what should be done. He was a playwright and artist and his funeral was full of little personal touches and ideas; it did a lot to help his friends and partner come to terms with their grief.
But certainly you should have a will, even if you are single and have no obvious heirs. If you have a will it's you who decides what will happen to any assets you may leave behind. At the very least you could name a charity that you appreciate and say that everything should go to them.
Much love, Larry
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#194083 - 12/06/07 12:20 PM
Re: death
[Re: roadrunner]
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Moderator Emeritus MaleSurvivor
Registered: 08/16/05
Posts: 1674
Loc: Moscow, Russia
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I can't say much as I live in another country with our unique customs etc.
We in big cities prefer cremation because it is MUCH chipper...
Alexey
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#194087 - 12/06/07 12:32 PM
Re: death
[Re: alexey]
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Member MaleSurvivor
Registered: 11/12/05
Posts: 2958
Loc: United States
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I want a Viking Funeral. Ok seriously, I think Andy's initial reply was a good start for consideration of your options. Here is an excerpt from some links that I have offered at the bottom: What are your final wishes? You should already have a will and a Power of Attorney or Living Will, but have you thought about who will handle important financial matters and what your wishes are in the event of your death? Clark suggests that you write a letter to your family, typically addressed to your spouse (usually the executor of your will). You may also want to address the letter to your children, particularly if they are the primary beneficiaries of your estate. This letter is meant to provide assistance and guidance to your family regarding items not covered in your will. It will not change your will. Here are some points to cover in your letter: 1. Funeral and burial arrangements: Where, by whom, what kind, and at what cost? 2. Anatomical gifts: Identify the nature and location of any anatomical gift declarations you have made. 3. Memorials and contributions: Identify what organizations or institutions might be appropriate recipients of memorials or charitable donations made in your memory. 4. Preparation of obituary: Should your obituary be prepared in advance and be updated periodically? To which newspaper should it be sent? 5. Notifications of friends, relatives, business associates, and colleagues in charitable or civic groups. Identify those persons to be contracted upon your death, noting any particular requests or messages to be given, and listing their current addresses and phone numbers. 6. Location of your safe-deposit box and its key. 7. Location of your will and estate planning documents: Include any trusts, buy sell agreements, or extraneous writings incorporated in your will. 8. Medical and hospital coverages and location of the policies. 9. Social Security and Veterans Administration benefits: Identify current or potential benefits. 10. Life insurance: Indicate where policies are located and what steps should be taken to collect policy proceeds. 11. Location and explanation of title documents and other records relating to your assets. Include deeds, stocks, bonds, bank accounts and deposits, retirement plans, and vehicle titles. 12. Identify obligations involving periodic payments, such as your home mortgage, car loans, and other debts, including amount and to whom payable. 13. Identify your attorney and professional advisers (including your accountant, broker, trust officer, and insurance agent) who you currently use or recommend. 14. Key employees and business friends to keep business operating until sale. The value of an ongoing business is much greater than a closed one! http://clarkhoward.com/shownotes/category/3/126/249/http://clarkhoward.com/shownotes/category/3/126/249/389/
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#194207 - 12/07/07 06:53 AM
Re: death
[Re: Elad 12]
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Registered: 04/13/02
Posts: 1332
Loc: Wyoming
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Jarrad,
A lot of on line services offer a do it yourself will package. I also know some office supply stores have blank will's as well. It's always a good idea to have one even if you dont have a lot of assets.
For me I want to be creamated and my ashes set to the company that makes diamonds from your ashes. I want them divided into 3rd's and then one made for each of my kids. I know sounds weird but I have talked to my kids and all 4 of agree. I don't have the link or the time this morning to find it. But you can do a net search and find the company.
James
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#194239 - 12/07/07 10:48 AM
Re: death
[Re: Jarrad]
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Member MaleSurvivor
Registered: 11/14/06
Posts: 1236
Loc: Baltimore, Maryland
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The most important thing is to be absolutely clear in your Living Will and Final Will. When my grandpa was dying of cancer, the family -- us -- had to decide whether or not to take him off life support. In his Living Will he stated that he wanted life support to be removed something to the idea of "when life wasn't comfortable or there was little hope of recovery." Those aren't the exact words; they escape me, but you know what I mean. So it caused a big ruckus between our family of what we should do and what he would've wanted (he was unconscious) because there was so much gray area in his wishes. No one knew what we should do and what he would've wanted. It happened too with his estate. People fighting over stuff and getting all mixed up. A good idea is to go over your Living and Final wills with a fine-toothed comb in the presence of a lawyer. Also tell family or friends your exact wishes. More than one with the same story. The idea is to eliminate as much "maybe" as possible so everything goes smoothly. Just my two cents. 
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#194240 - 12/07/07 11:11 AM
Re: death
[Re: AndyJB2005]
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Member MaleSurvivor
Registered: 09/25/07
Posts: 762
Loc: NOTHERN COLORADO
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Jarrad: Just my 2 cents on this topic. I just don't want to put this burden on my kids. I do have one up on you as I do have 2 kids. But someone has to take care of the final arrangements, so why leave them up to someone else? I have not made all my arrangements yet, but I do have them down on paper so when I say "Goodby", at least my kids have something to work with.
Ken
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