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#181406 - 09/20/07 12:21 PM alta retreat thing
sabata Offline
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so------------------i was so anxious for this to happen--------------------i finally got there------------------------i was overtaken-----------overwhelmed-------------i went home-----------------my world is so different now-----------i have this gut feeling-----------like i havent had in years-------------------i am so close to crying-------------------tears come to my eyes------------out of no where--------------------i am so afrade to go out in the world-----------------------dont know why----------------------------------i think this was a good experance for me========================as i am feeling something,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,it isnt good,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but its something,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,maybe that is why they call this work.............................finally went by my work today--------------------to get my check----------------------------------i had arrange for the week off---------------------as i had no idea how i would react to this retreat thing--------------------------------------------been avoiding going by work--------------------------------boy everyone was so nice---------------------my boss shock my hand-------------------this is the first time when i shook anothers mans hand----------------------------------------------that i coulf feel his hand-------------------------------a mans hand---------------------------------------------i have no idea what thnis means----------------------------------------------i told my boss about being with men who cried----------------------he told me its ok for men to cry-------------------------than told me to enjoy the rest of my time off----------------------------this made my gut feeling go away for a short time------------------------------------------------------this is what i wanted-----------------to feel--------------------so i need to go with it------------not trying to numb out which could be so easy-----------------------thank you all ----------------------------who was there for allowing me to be there and experiance yours pain,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,steve


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#181410 - 09/20/07 12:26 PM Re: alta retreat thing [Re: sabata]
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It was great to spend that time with you, Steve. Wish I could have taken the week off, but I'm outta vacation until the next fiscal year. No matter.

Andy

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#181412 - 09/20/07 12:32 PM Re: alta retreat thing [Re: FormerTexan]
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Steve,

It really is a nice thing to feel something -- even if its a bad something -- for a change. Sounds like you have a good supportive boss. I truly hope you find a way to stay with these feelings prior to heading back to work. I've been trying to work this week and it seems the only way I know how to work is to shut off feelings... I'm trying to mix the two but its really difficult.

P.S. Andy! Nice new avatar!

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#181439 - 09/20/07 03:00 PM Re: alta retreat thing [Re: sabata]
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Steve,

Since you have the week off...try to let it flow...life will get back in the way, and you might not have an opportunity like this again for a while. If you need to call one of your small group, do it! Talking might help you process...in our short conversation, I found you were articulate, so get it out.

Peace,
Jorge

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#181444 - 09/20/07 03:37 PM Re: alta retreat thing [Re: JorgeR]
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Let it happen, Steve. If you feel like crying, let yourself cry. Laugh, play, just be. You have had a lot to deal with this week coming back from the retreat. Take some time to just be.


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#181448 - 09/20/07 03:48 PM Re: alta retreat thing [Re: Dewey2k]
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You're an amazing guy and there are lots of us spread out across the country (and at least one in Canada) who admire your courage and are sending you hope.

I too am out of work this week because I am trying to find a new job (terrible timing) so I am around if you want to PM.

Life is happening to you right now -- stay with it and see where you wind up. And remember to notice that you are still breathing.


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#181461 - 09/20/07 06:36 PM Re: alta retreat thing [Re: testingWaters]
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yea that breathing thing-----------need to remember that-----------------yea i am going with it prety much-----------------really havent turned on the tv---------------------which is unusal for me------------------i normally have it on all of the time----------------so i am dealing with silance----------------my choice-----------------------i think the hardest tiing for me----------------------being i live by myself-----------------i dont have much contack wth people-----------------except work----------------and i kinda have been content with that---------------------------but spending time with everyone-----------------------was such a new experance for me-----------------------------------------the bonding caring ect--------------------------then i came back to being by myself--------------------no big deal i just need to get use to it-----------------------------------i can recall as a boy i went to summer camp-----------------------i didnt wanted to go home--------------------------when i did get home i felt this very same way--------------took a few weeks to get over it then-----------------------------------i was pretty much a loner then also--------------not much people contact--------------------and my parents didnt do hugs----------------or touching------------that sort of stuff--------------------------------steve


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#181561 - 09/21/07 11:11 AM Re: alta retreat thing [Re: sabata]
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Steve,

I like Dwayne's comment...just be Steve. Whatever you need to do - do it. Cry if you need to, talk if you can, but just be Steve for a bit.

I remember being in the same place for awhile. I was making progress but I had no idea what to do with it. I felt like I was reinventing myself, and that was confusing and VERY daunting indeed.

But Steve, what you are doing, and what I did, is just discovering the "real me". We have spent so many years compensating and closing down that doing this feels strange and confusing. But let me tell you - it's worth it!

Much love,
Larry

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As I go walking my freedom highway.
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#181601 - 09/21/07 02:12 PM Re: alta retreat thing [Re: roadrunner]
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thanks-----------------larry-------------i have been doubting it latley--------------is it worth it---------------------------i guess it is------------------new feelings--------------real scary------------------------steve


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#181602 - 09/21/07 02:13 PM Re: alta retreat thing [Re: sabata]
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thanks for putting that picture in your adivatar------------------------------dewey------------------it is so refreshing----------------------steve


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#181610 - 09/21/07 02:31 PM Re: alta retreat thing [Re: sabata]
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Glad you like it, Steve.


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#181666 - 09/21/07 09:48 PM Re: alta retreat thing [Re: Dewey2k]
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sorry andy-----------------your picture is refreshing also---------------------------steve


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#181667 - 09/21/07 10:05 PM Re: alta retreat thing [Re: sabata]
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No problem, Steve.

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#181784 - 09/22/07 08:07 PM Re: alta retreat thing [Re: FormerTexan]
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I just want to say, "Hi," Steve, and tell you that I'm rooting for you. You're in my heart, brother.

It may be silent in your house and you may not see anybody there, but we're with you and cheering you on.

Although I haven't been able to get on the board until today, man, I have thought of you so many times since the weekend.

I can so clearly see your face and feel that quiet, determined strength. You're gonna make it and it will be worth it.

It's a long way from Utah to Texas, but listen and see if you can hear me holler: "YEA STEVE!!!!"

Mike

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#181806 - 09/22/07 09:53 PM Re: alta retreat thing [Re: tresheridas]
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Hey Thanks---------------Mike so much------------------------i thought i heard something in the background---------------------it was you--------------cool-----------------yea i still see everyone---in my mind------------------------------------------thanks--------------------------------------and rock thatchild for me-------------------------------------------steve


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#181940 - 09/23/07 09:06 PM Re: alta retreat thing [Re: sabata]
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Steve,

Good luck as you start back to work tomorrow. you will be in my thoughts. You are so strong and compassionate. Give some of that compassion to yourself. You are a good guy.

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Everything works out right in the end. If things are not working right, it isn't the end yet. Don't let it bother you, relax and keep on goin
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"I get up. I walk. I fall down. Meanwhile, I keep dancing."
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#181948 - 09/23/07 09:31 PM Re: alta retreat thing [Re: Ken Followell]
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thanks-----so much---------Ken------------------------------------steve


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#181983 - 09/23/07 11:44 PM Re: alta retreat thing [Re: sabata]
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Hey Steve, I can hear that Mike yell coming from Tx - "that's a RAGING Yea, Steve!!!" We are still there with you even over the miles!! You can do this!!!

Howard \:\)



Edited by ScottyTodd (09/23/07 11:46 PM)
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#182003 - 09/24/07 06:15 AM Re: alta retreat thing [Re: ScottyTodd]
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thanks guys------------------------------knowing you all are there helps a lot----------------------you all are so special----------------------thanks---------------steve


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