Just curious as to any of these close to Eastern Nebraska, Western Iowa area?
Thanks,
Scott

Scott, you can find out the schedule through the links on the front page.

Hi Scott,

Sounds like the closest one to you would the next one in Salt Lake City. It's held at a ski lodge at 8500 feet in a beautiful monutain pass. Join us for a great weekend!

Taz

I'm sure looking forward to that Salt Lake City WOR!!! Anyone else going? Scott - is that possible for you?

Howard

Howard,

I got my eyes set on it.

Wish I was, but doesn't look like it's in the cards for this year.

M

Damn, here's another one I wish I was attending...

I'm holding off for the next Level II at Alta. Anyone know when that will be?

Hi guys,

More than likely the next Advanced WOR will be the Alta weekend in September of '08.

And MarkK, if the reason is financial, there are scholarships available. Many guys have gotten to go this way.

Hope many more guys take the plunge and treat themselves to an amazing groth filled experience.

See you there....

Taz

Yeah, I've read that, Taz. But for reasons too many to go into here - that wouldn't work. I know - more proof that I should be going to this thing ...

M

Thanks everyone for the response, Utah, is a little out of range for me. Hopefully someday there will be one close enough, like maybe Kansas City, MO or even St. Louis, MO. Anyway, I'll keep watching.

Utah distance is near perfect for me.

Denver would be better... heh ... or Estes Park -

Ah well - this is what dreams are made of.

Estes Park.... A very beautiful town. I'd have liked to have spent more time in and about it when I was there a couple weeks back.

You never know, Mark. Find the perfect retreat center at the perfect price for the Recovery Weekend and you may get your wish!

John

I'll send you a PM of places I know of ....

M

when you wish upon a star ...
i suppose it's always worth wishing ... even when you're way outside the realm of reality.

Hey Scott.................Utah isnt that far...........about 17 hours from the center of the state..............if you are more western......then its less time...........i am driving there from texas...........18 to 19 hours..............easiley done........................just a thought

I agree Mark, Denver would be better - not that I'm biased any.

heh - well, if i can find a place that qualifies for holding one, you can BET i'll do some recommending...

And if not - well by next year maybe I can swing Utah


M

I agree we need one in the Midwest... maybe something like Minneapolis, perfect for our Canadian friends to easily attend too.

peace,

Hi Lars,

I couldn't agree with you more that every corner of the country needs to have weekends of recovery. Unfortunately, the needs to consider in order to make one of these happen can be mindboggling. Seven years ago when we started the WORs, we looked far and wide for places to hold them that could meet our needs. It took the better part of 5 years to come up with the four places we've found. It would take coming up with a place better than the four we already have to get the team to consider some place different. How I wish it wasn't this difficult!

Dale

Dale really makes a good point when he refers to the difficulty of finding a really good place for survivors to meet. I have had the same experience in setting up a one-day workshop for Mike Lew here in the UK in January 2009. There are so many factors to consider, and I couldn't believe how many places I rejected because I decided they just wouldn't feel safe and welcoming. The venue I finally opted for is perfect, but man, it sure did take some time to find it.

Much love,
Larry

Is there a list of criteria? I know a couple retreats in Colorado that might be possibilities ... if there was like a checklist I could go over - maybe I could find something. I mean - if we're still interested in finding places...


M

Hi Mark,

I'm not certain that such a list exists. I do know that the team just knows one when we see and feel one. And a lot has to do with how we are received by the staff of the place and how helpful they are or are not in understanding and accepting the validity of our needs.

So just to name a few items, there is geography in terms of distance from a major airport; transportation to and from airport; number of rooms from singles to 3 or 4 per room; quality of food and snacks; three or four breakout rooms; a large main room for plenary sessions including movement; cost of room and meals; availability of space when we need it; types and number of bathrooms; space for a safe room; non religious setting without religious artifacts; and then there is the ever present "feel" of the place. Someone from the team must visit the site before it will even be considered.

This scratches the surface of considerations. Being faithful to all of our considerations is what helps make the WORs one of the best recovery experiences anywhere.

Dale

In other words - just think Kirkridge...

That would make sense.. And ... now that I think about it - I can see why it can be such a enormous task finding a place that does "fit" the needs of a WoR.

Thanx for the reply Dale.

M

How about Winter Park, CO in the off-season? This first place has a variety of accommodations plus flexible meeting space and on-site food and bar service, and their off-season room rates aren't too high, especially for group rates.

http://www.winter-park-colorado-lodging.com/hotels/wpmtnlodge.htm

This 2nd place is nearby and is more of a condo resort. They have studio, 1 BR, 2 BR, and 3 BR units with full kitchens. They also have on-site food and bar service plus flexible meeting space. Their off-season rates are a little higher than the first place.

http://www.winter-park-colorado-lodging.com/hotels/ironhorse.htm

Both of these places are at the base of Winter Park ski area, which is within a 2-hour drive of Denver Int'l. Airport. DIA has several low-cost carriers plus is a United and Frontier hub, and a Southwest mini-hub. DIA also has non-stop service to London on British Airways and there are shuttle buses that run the route from DIA to Winter Park too. One can also arrive by Amtrak with a station nearby in Fraser, CO. Winter Park runs a scenic chairlift and allows mountain biking and hiking on their mountain, and there are other hiking and 4WD opportunities nearby. There are also numerous restaurants nearby, plus high-end golf opportunities and several large lakes nearby including Grand Lake and the western entrance to Rocky Mtn. National Park too. There is also a Quality Inn in Fraser that has conference space and would be even less in the off-season too.

This might be a little on the pricey side, but there are a wealth of character-building recreational opportunities nearby. There are plenty of other more remote or isolated/safer places available in Colorado too.

This place is between Denver and Colorado Springs and sort of reminds me of a western version of Kirkridge. In the Spring and Fall they offer the ability to rent the entire facility for groups. They do have on-site food service. It is a family-owned working dude ranch in the mountains.

http://www.lostvalleyranch.com/corporatemeetings.html

Mark