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#159712 - 06/03/07 09:48 PM ACLU and child porn
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Goddamit this pisses me off. I'm a fucking member of this organization. Does no one have any desency anymore that the people who are there to protect our friggen rights are destroying them too?

I hope Tierney burns in hell forever. Rat bastard!

http://www.wdbj7.com/Global/story.asp?S=6600382&nav=menu368_2

Originally Posted By: "Associated Press - June 1, 2007 6:35 PM ET"
ALEXANDRIA, Va. (AP) - A former president of the Virginia chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union pleaded guilty today to federal child pornography charges.

51-year-old Charles Rust-Tierney entered his plea to one count of receipt of child pornography in US District Court in Alexandria. He had been indicted last month on one count each of receipt and possession of child pornography.

Prosecutors say from March 2005 until October 2006, Rust-Tierney bought at least five sub>
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#160099 - 06/05/07 08:56 PM Re: ACLU and child porn [Re: Soccer Kid]
Ken Singer, LCSW Offline
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It is disappointing that someone who used to be president of the ACLU would use child porn. I am a member of that org as well and all I can say is that there are people in leadership positions of all sorts who have a dark side that the public doesn't know about.

Think of the minister who engaged in sexual relations and used drugs supplied by the male escort he bought while preaching against homosexuality (and presumably against drugs). His name escapes me now, but there are so many examples of human failings.

I guess we have to distance ourselves from the fallen leader and the organization. I will still support the mission of ACLU but am saddened by the disgrace of a leader.

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#160105 - 06/05/07 09:05 PM Re: ACLU and child porn [Re: Ken Singer, LCSW]
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I'm not renewing my membership. Maybe I'm over reacting, maybe not. Their mission is good, but I'm not sending money to an organization where they have people like that running the place.

I've had so many issues with trust lately and I thought I was getting better with them all and I read this story on Google News and...I guess this kind of shit just hit's me a little too close to home. I have 0 tolerance for people who have kid porn and would beat the life out of someone for making it. I just can't handle that shit.



Edited by Soccer Kid (06/05/07 09:09 PM)
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#160244 - 06/06/07 12:44 PM Re: ACLU and child porn [Re: Soccer Kid]
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As disgusting as this is- it is not a first for this organization which seems to have a bit of an ugly past regarding this issue- especially in Florida.

I stopped supporting this organization 10 years ago because of similar issues where two judges had gotten caught with child porn on their computers in there (court) offices- they received nothing more than a pat on the wrist and the ACLU refused to look into the situation when a child's rights group demanded an investigation.

The ACLU for whatever reason seems to draw child predators and their enablers. As a rule predators often will hide in the church and other "pillar of the community" organizations.

My guess is they will receive either favor or can go on almost indefinitely because of the guise these organizations provide. Its the perfect cover. Running around acting noble and doing seemingly noble things causes the suspicions to be quelled and only investigated with hard evidence.

Its a sad and disgusting fact.


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#160341 - 06/07/07 01:46 AM Re: ACLU and child porn [Re: philobat]
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I didn't know they had such a past.

That makes me sick. Why can't people just do the right thing and stop being so freaking selfish?

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#160378 - 06/07/07 09:11 AM Re: ACLU and child porn [Re: Soccer Kid]
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Anywhere there are poeple, you'll have people-problems. Stop trusting organizations that are run by people to be anything other fallible.

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#160414 - 06/07/07 12:22 PM Re: ACLU and child porn [Re: Still]
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#160509 - 06/07/07 08:50 PM Re: ACLU and child porn [Re: selene]
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There will always be people who use there great power to do secret bad things but to get mad at the organization that trusted him to give him the power could be a mistake. I mean Mark foley or what ever his name is the congress man who abused teenage pages as sick as he was when we found out about it we didnt give up hope in our goverment. we voted the sick bastards out of office. i think to stop being a memeber of a group only fuels the fire instead we should work to fix it. however i am still upset by that some one in the ACLU could be this way.


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#160511 - 06/07/07 09:09 PM Re: ACLU and child porn [Re: theatrekid]
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I guess that if you condemn Congress because Mark Foley was a congressman, or blast the Republican party because Foley was one of them, would be the same as condemning the ACLU because a past president of a state chapter used child pornography.

If an organization fails to condemn the errant member or makes excuses for him, then maybe censure or withdrawal of funds may be the answer.

I still support the ACLU because they do a lot of good work to protect the basic liberties we have under the Constitution. A few years ago, the president of the Red Cross was found to have boosted his salary to an obscene level. I waited to see if the organization was going to protect him once the word got out. He was canned and I felt better that the organization took appropriate measures.

It's important to look at the bigger picture. Theatrekid is right, in my opinion, that it doesn't make sense to condemn the organization for what a member or officer does in private. This kind of behavior can shame or embarass the organization but it doesn't mean the organization itself deserves your scorn.

Ken


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#160568 - 06/08/07 01:36 AM Re: ACLU and child porn [Re: Ken Singer, LCSW]
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I dunno, I guess the way that I look at it is different.

I dunno what to think. I just know that I've had some unique experiences in my life that might make me more pissed off about this stuff than others.

I'm not renewing my membership because I can't trust that the person I send my money to for membership dues is not taking that money and buying kid porn with it. Makes me sick just thinking about it.

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