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#158236 - 05/26/07 01:21 AM Supreme Court has Upheld Death Penalty for CSA
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http://www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/05/23/child.rape.ap/index.html

What do you guys think of this? I...........................................................................................................................................I'm VERY LEERY of giving government this kind of power myself.

Are any of you familiar with Dr. Laura Schlessinger? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Schlessinger She is an ardent advocate of the death penalty for perps, and she admits that she's in a minority but she doesn't care.

One side of me thinks that ANY grooming perp would think twice before violating a child, the other part of me thinks that child murder rates would skyrocket since the perp wouldn't want the victim to "talk".

I......................wow...................I don't know.


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#158285 - 05/26/07 11:38 AM Re: Supreme Court has Upheld Death Penalty for CSA [Re: Hauser]
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Personally, I'd prefer that child rapists get life in prison without parole. Let them get a lifetime of living with that stigma in prison and the inevitable retribution that comes with it. Then he'll wish he was dead. I support the death penalty, but only for when someone has been physically killed.

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#158291 - 05/26/07 12:16 PM Re: Supreme Court has Upheld Death Penalty for CSA [Re: EGL]
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life in prison for most child molesters consists of being kept seperate from the general population ,for safety purposes,they get protected in prison cause they have rights you know?its not like in the movies where they get raped every night ,i mean we cant let the same things they did happen to them can we? ive said it before ,child molestation is murder,a child walks into a situtation of sexual abuse and maybe he survives ,but that perfect child ,that wonderfull creation of god is never seen again,can never be brought totaly back and if thats not dying then what is? the death penalty has no effect on the sick desires that drive these monsters ,and if they plan to kill it makes no difference to them what the punishment is ,my perp didnt try to kill me cause he thought i would tell,he tried to kill me cause he got tired of me.

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#158294 - 05/26/07 12:37 PM Re: Supreme Court has Upheld Death Penalty for CSA [Re: shadowkid]
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They killed little Robbie...He says nothing at all re this issue.

They enjoyed and trained "12er" (the animal)...he says "give me the button..I'll be executioner."

Adult Rob says throw them into general population...they'll end up dead there either way. At least they'll be tortures a good long while first.



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#158313 - 05/26/07 04:15 PM Re: Supreme Court has Upheld Death Penalty for CSA [Re: Hauser]
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I read this early in the week, and thought that is a bit harsh.
Why? Do I think that!
Well, a serial boy rapist who travelled europe for years got just four years, yet a man gets life for having pictures.

If we look at our own mental picture as boys, not now, but back when it happened, it would be horrific citing an abuser in court, if you knew the outcome would be to take their lives.
It would also make it terrifically difficult to prosecute successfully.

Child abuse charges are very difficult for barristers to get their heads around, Judges also, because they cannot perceive the gravity of what really happens to a child.
I could never give a court the real cost of being abused, nor can any kid.

I would prescribe life in prison to the death sentence, just because death has happened to innocent ppl.
I got threatened if I told, but my mind would never advocate taking a life for a life.

ste

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#158350 - 05/26/07 07:25 PM Re: Supreme Court has Upheld Death Penalty for CSA [Re: reality2k4]
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Alan,

Thanks for starting a valuable discussion. I am personally against the death penalty because no legal system can be perfect. You can't give a man his life back if you later discover he was innocent.

That said, I rather maliciously like the idea of a pedophile sitting in prison for the rest of his life to ponder what he has done. That's what we have to do, isn't it?

Much love,
Larry

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#158502 - 05/27/07 10:42 AM Re: Supreme Court has Upheld Death Penalty for CSA [Re: roadrunner]
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Since there are a significant amount of abusers who are related to their victims, I think that this would only keep kids quiet more. If they know that their Dad or Uncle Charlie will die if they get in trouble, they aren't going to tell.


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#158505 - 05/27/07 10:51 AM Re: Supreme Court has Upheld Death Penalty for CSA [Re: onlyakid]
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if its dad or uncle charlie they dont tell anyway,cause they love their family members.they are taught to respect family ,so they wont tell either way.

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#158522 - 05/27/07 02:09 PM Re: Supreme Court has Upheld Death Penalty for CSA [Re: shadowkid]
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I have a brother in law who is in a federal prison currently for SA of his son. He is incarcerated among the general population and lives in fear of his life every day of his life for fear the other inmates will discover the real reason he is there.

To me I think that is the price he has to pay. Let him have a little hell of his own for the hell he perpetrated on an innocent. Perhaps that's Little John talking, but I guess that's where I'm at.

I realize not all perps are dealt with in this way, and are protected. Frankly I'm glad someone else is in charge of those decisions than me.

John

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#158525 - 05/27/07 02:31 PM Re: Supreme Court has Upheld Death Penalty for CSA [Re: shadowkid]
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Yeah, they make laws then they dont see what will really happen.
There should NOT be a death penalty, NEVER!

The kids lose out whichever throw of the dice, but too many
kids vanish off the face of the Earth as it is, and perps
will kill a kid rather than lose their own f*cking lives.

It should be us that lobby the judiciary, not the lynchmob
public who do not know the consequence of what these laws
can lead up to, until its far too late,

ste

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