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#15519 - 08/29/04 04:19 AM Philosophy and apology
Leosha Offline
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Registered: 06/18/03
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I just posted this in the member's forum. But perhaps halfway through, I realized that that forum is limited in exposure to persons here, and I did wish to present this to more people. So I am duplicating it here. Thank you.

Yes, be afraid! ;\)

I think I have been spending far too much time with my much kinder and more forgiving friend lately! I am starting to think very much that there truly ARE, always, at least two ways to view everything in the world. Actually, I suppose there are as many views as there are human perceptions. (although someone, I believe a writer, once said that there are no original ideas. In which case, why am I posting this? Go look up the original idea and read that one! haha)

I have had discussions with quite a few other members here, either by phone, instant message, or (minimally) in the chat room here. So, here are all these varying perceptions, bouncing off of each other. No one is right. No one is wrong. I maybe disagree with one person's view. They maybe disagree with mine. Does that disagreement make one opinion more valid then the other? No, of course not. It means we are different, unique individuals, who come from different backgrounds, who have had different experiences, and who hold different points of view. Even the person here who probably is closest to me in backgrounds and some experiences, we are VERY different in our opinions of things and our coping through things. And neither of us is wrong.

I am thinking of one individual in specific, but I am sure there have been more in my time here! But this one person and I, we spoke for hours one night, both arguing our opinions and ideas regarding perception of life and the healing experience. It was quite civil, although heated at times maybe. But I just want this person, and everyone else I have communicated with here, to know that I do NOT at all mean to present my point of view as the 'right' one! And perhaps I have done that before. But of course, it is not the 'right' one. It is right only to me, and only for now, for tomorrow, it may change, yes?

I have said before, it is remarkable how civil and respectful we all are here with each other, most of the time. The occasional arguments, disagreements, feuds, they happen. That is the human experience, specially with the high emotions at this site. But I would like to say, on my behalf, that I am very sorry for anyone I have disrespected at all here ever, or been deaf to. I have had various moods in my life, as anyone else has, but in my heart, I do think I am not by nature a rude person. So, if I have been such to you, with or without 'provocation', I do apologize. That does not mean I change my view, and that does not mean I will back down from my view. It does not mean that if you are someone who has truly wronged me that it is automatically forgotten. But I am responsible only for my behavior, and if it has been poor, I do apologize.

Thank you. I learn from everyone here, every post here, and every experience here. Not all are positives. But something can be 'negative' and still hold great learning potential also. It is all here, and I thank you all who are part of 'here'.

Leosha

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"Human salvation lies in the hands of the creatively maladjusted."~~~Martin Luther King Jr., 1963

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#15520 - 08/30/04 05:30 AM Re: Philosophy and apology
Aden Offline
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Registered: 07/05/04
Posts: 499
Leoshe,

You are right. Only you are responsible for who you are. Here. There are other factors involved. But here is all we have. I don't ever want to be blamed for you having a panic attack again. You didn't do that. I didn't say you did that. I said that you should be careful around me because others blamed me for your panic attack. I also suggested that we should work on personality integration issues. In the last week you seem to be quite integrated.

Look, I don't know what is going on. I don't know how to talk to you in a way that will make you like me. I don't even know you.

But I will tell you two things that are the truth. Your typing is much better since I told you to look at your hands, and your use of the English language is better since I became obscure and obtuse.

I am sorry if you thought that I meant to hurt you. Your reaction seems to disprove your assumption.

What do you think?

The almighty Aden


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#15521 - 08/30/04 12:15 PM Re: Philosophy and apology
Andrew Offline
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Registered: 07/25/03
Posts: 1192
Thank you for the posting Leosha. There were a lot of good messages in it for me. I am amazed at how much wisdom comes from this forum. So much of what we learn here is not necessarily related directly to sexual abuse issues, but the advise and values can be applied to life's struggles, and we can become stronger and better able to withstand whatever challenges may greet us.
Peace, Andrew

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#15522 - 08/30/04 12:38 PM Re: Philosophy and apology
Leosha Offline
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Aden, I sent you a PM.

Andrew, I will repeat again, it is good to see you back. Although we have not always shared similar thoughts and opinions, I had been thinking of you while you were gone, and wondering how you have been.

Leosha

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