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#15399 - 05/06/03 09:25 PM Bill passes the Senate
Muldoon Offline
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Registered: 05/30/02
Posts: 1428
Loc: St Paul MN
Our bill to change the Statute of Limitations on SA passed the Senate 41-25. The Senate bill is super for victims of sexual abuse. The bill is super simple. A victim has 6 years from the time he puts the cause and effects together. That means that there is no age limit on suing. Every one here at Male Survivors could sue our perp no matter when we where abused. The clock doesnít start until we begin our healing. When 2+2=4, when we begin too fully understand the evil and itís effect abound us. We can have 4 or 5 of healing before we even have to begin thinking about suing our perp in civil court.

Thatís the good news the bad news is that the bill in the House is totally different and our sponsor isnít too much behind us. I am not too happy about this but maybe the Senate language can be put into the House bill. It is all coming down to this last 9 days.
Thanks for all your help these last few months, your input was very helpful. Send your extra energy to ST. Paul MN. And help change the world one step at a time.
Muldoon

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#15400 - 05/07/03 12:35 AM Re: Bill passes the Senate
Wuamei Offline
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Registered: 08/19/02
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Thanks Muldoon for the great work you & other survivor brothers in MN have done on behalf of us all! This is awesome!

As to the apparent setback of sorts, I am sending prayers, focused meditation, channeled energy & whatever else may be needed.

Victor

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#15401 - 05/07/03 12:48 AM Re: Bill passes the Senate
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Registered: 08/28/01
Posts: 1752
Loc: Oakland, CA
Amazing work! You have done a great job for all of us!

I came across this recently about MN Rep. Arlon Lindner one of the votes you will surely not get in the House. The picture of him says it all.

St. Paul, Minn. ó Last month, Rep. Lindner said on the House floor that he questioned to what extent the Nazis persecuted homosexuals during World War II. The Corcoran Republican is sponsoring a bill that would remove civil rights protections for gays and lesbians. He said his bill would help prevent the spread of AIDS, and keep the U.S. from becoming, in his words, "another African continent."

from: http://news.mpr.org/features/2003/04/24_mccalluml_lindner/

GRR I tried to insert a picture but could not figure out how to do it!!!! - Can someone explain it to me? Anyway the picture of this guy is there and the sad story about his sphinctal remarks.

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#15402 - 05/07/03 03:07 AM Re: Bill passes the Senate
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Registered: 02/21/02
Posts: 40
Loc: Detroit Metro
copy the image URL to the clipboard and pop it in with the UBB code.





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#15403 - 05/07/03 11:09 AM Re: Bill passes the Senate
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Thanks liminal
I will try to figure it out

and thanks for importing the picture
it still makes me shudder
It raises the image of all of the control that some people seek over others - as I grew up it was always a frightening thought for me because I felt helpless in the face of it without having good boundaries to protect me

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#15404 - 05/07/03 11:17 AM Re: Bill passes the Senate
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Registered: 07/11/02
Posts: 770
Loc: Western USA
Arlon Lindner, is a big'ol queen. Other wise he wouldn't bother putting so much time and engerny into hating homosexuals.


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#15405 - 05/07/03 12:22 PM Re: Bill passes the Senate
randy Offline
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Registered: 04/24/02
Posts: 30
Loc: Pittsburgh, Pa
n/m


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#15406 - 05/07/03 07:47 PM Re: Bill passes the Senate
Lloydy Offline
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Registered: 04/17/02
Posts: 7071
Loc: England Shropshire
Don't some people just look like their opinions ?
:p

Dave

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#15407 - 05/07/03 10:50 PM Re: Bill passes the Senate
Cement Offline
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Registered: 06/05/02
Posts: 740
Loc: Southern California
Brian-z, you just made me laugh. I have to say I thought the same thing!

I feel like crap today and I just want to reach out a little. That laugh helped take the sting out of a horrid man.

Thanks for the laugh. This guy will enjoy some bad karma. I just get the feeling, don't you?

Or maybe he won't. See how my mood is? Gonna run.

Peace and safe hugs guys...

James

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#15408 - 05/08/03 12:04 AM Re: Bill passes the Senate
Spidey Offline
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Registered: 05/04/03
Posts: 14
Loc: NYC
Muldoon,

Heartfelt thanks for all you have done and all you plan to do.

Dave


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#15409 - 05/09/03 01:42 PM Re: Bill passes the Senate
JonathanKhonsu Offline
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Registered: 04/18/03
Posts: 72
Loc: PA
urg. Ok, I'm not shure when this guy said what he said, but urg. Ok, now I'm down to one sylables :p I can't beleive. I mean freedom of speech is...different for leaders on a public forom...I'm not going to win this. Bye.

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#15410 - 05/09/03 03:24 PM Re: Bill passes the Senate
Muldoon Offline
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Registered: 05/30/02
Posts: 1428
Loc: St Paul MN
Thad beleive it or not he supports our bill. I got in a dissusion about the fact this isn't a guy issue that it is a POWER issue. He didn't like hearing me say that. It's the truth it's a power that drives the perps.
Just got back from two days in the city. They are playing big games at the Capital and the House leadership is tring to send the bill to rules committee which could kill it. O well thats Games IN POWER 101,kill it before it can be debated.
I got to write 1 more letter that will make them understand. The RIGHT to SEEK JUSTICE, must be protected for all victims

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#15411 - 05/09/03 03:28 PM Re: Bill passes the Senate
Wuamei Offline
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Registered: 08/19/02
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You go Muldoon, you are the man! Thanks bro!

Victor

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#15412 - 05/09/03 03:33 PM Re: Bill passes the Senate
Mike Church Offline
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Registered: 01/23/03
Posts: 3439
Loc: Toronto, Canada
Muldoon if ever there was a sponsor in the pack for me you are it(asi in AA). You are an inspiration to me to continue the fight. I will never forget how you got me off my ass and working at it. I am so terribly proud of your accomplishment

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#15413 - 05/09/03 07:28 PM Re: Bill passes the Senate
Lloydy Offline
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Registered: 04/17/02
Posts: 7071
Loc: England Shropshire
Muldoon
Keep at it my friend, here, or there in the US the fight is just as important.

What happens in the US usually filters through to here some time after.

Dave

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#15414 - 05/25/03 05:46 PM Re: Bill passes the Senate
JK Offline
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Registered: 05/13/03
Posts: 26
Loc: New York
Any updates ?


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#15415 - 05/26/03 12:45 PM Re: Bill passes the Senate
Thad Offline
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Registered: 08/28/01
Posts: 1752
Loc: Oakland, CA
The progress (or lack thereof) can be followed at http://www.revisor.leg.state.mn.us:8181/...mitations%27+OR DER+BY+FILE_NUMBER/Ascend%26M%3D2%26K%3DSF057502003%26R%3DY%26U%3D1

SF0575 Modifying the statute of limitations for civil actions for damages based on
personal injury caused by sexual abuse against a minor, knowledge of the abuse
or feelings of confusion or personal responsibility not to constitute discovery
of the injury

Official Actions:
Date Action Committee/De>
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