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#151495 - 04/18/07 01:34 PM
Re: Media Headache Coming?
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I don't know if we've got any way of coping personally or responding publicly, but the finger-pointing is already getting out of control and nobody's latched onto the survivor angle. Survivor angle has already come up, in the more "thoughtful" journals. I was reading a blog this morning where a therapist said she thought he was an abuse survivor.
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#151556 - 04/18/07 06:05 PM
Re: Media Headache Coming?
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http://newsbloggers.aol.com/2007/04/17/cho-seung-huis-plays/That's the link to the 'plays' Reading them I'm sure he was a victim of abuse, almost certainly sexual. Just how many clues are there in those writings? Everything is there, revenge, the graphic details, the 'feel-good' of the casino win, the expectation of being the 'loser' and the subsequent loss of the win. Even the style of writing has the essence of a fast running fantasy / dissociation to it. I'm not an expert, never professed to be one either, I'm a survivor who's made an effort to understand what goes on in order to help myself, everything else I've learned is a bonus. People were reading this stuff he'd written, far better educated and informed people than me, didn't someone spot that this kid was having problems? Or am I sounding like one of the army of TV 'experts' ? Dave
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#151565 - 04/18/07 06:37 PM
Re: Media Headache Coming?
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I had a different take of McBeef. It appeard as though Cho was Mcbeef. The spoiled kid, the over protective, irrational women...both use to wealth. How McBeef hadnt actully commited any offense but underwent all this attack until he finally snapped at the end. Maybe cho saw that as himself, being unjustly attacked.
I actully dont believe he underwent any sexual abuse. I think he turned psychotic. Isolated and introveted with his thoughts, fantasies and angers for too long that the line blurred and something trivial set him off. Brings to mind Marc Lapine who hated feminists. Cho hated rich kids and women.
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#151577 - 04/18/07 07:22 PM
Re: Media Headache Coming?
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Marc Lepine hated everyone, but he especially hated women. Here is a good psych-based assessment of that Cho guy, from a blogger I know: http://everyoneneedstherapy.blogspot.com/
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#151621 - 04/18/07 10:34 PM
Re: Media Headache Coming?
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I think Cho was sexually abused as a child. My gut feeling is that the fact that he never made eye contact with people and hardly ever spoke was due to shame and a secret he was trying to protect. I think the secret of the abuse finally ate him alive. Notice also the rage in his two plays towards older male figures including a stepfather and male teacher his characters wanted to kill. These father figures I think are the real targets for the rage.
I think in his videos he was talking to a real person, rather than all people. I think he wanted to bring shame upon this person by killing a bunch of innocent bystanders. Of course, this is all speculation on my part, but as someone who was sexually abused by his father, I can relate to much of Chos rage including wanting to get even and wanting to act it out. I got help for my rage, shame and terror issues, though. Its too bad he didnt get the help he needed so that he could have talked it out instead of acting it out.
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#151656 - 04/19/07 05:04 AM
Re: Media Headache Coming?
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His classmates already had him down as "a school shooter*. The writings were assessed by a psychologist, and dismissed as fantasy.
I dont think anyone could have foretold the horror ahead, but in hindsight, we all see the clues. There are many pieces to this jigsaw, and blaming one aspect will never lead us to the cause.
Lets face it, he should have had some level of support, but he did not. If you track it back to his childhood, who knows what he has witnessed, or been made to do.
He obviously did not fit into society, that is all they may ever know,
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