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#14759 - 05/10/06 12:35 AM Re: NAMBLA?! I can't beleive this!!
Lloydy Offline
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Mel
Once again what you write make a lot of sense, I agree entirely.

Except that I believe there is huge money involved, and it runs alongside the traded porn you mention.

This is coming from the East, the old Soviet countries and some Asian ones as well.
Running a 'pay as you view' site from some godforsaken and lawless hell hole in Siberia is a pretty safe bet.
That traffic has to be curtailed by the credit card companies, by reporting every transaction to Interpol or someone, and it's up to the law enforcement people to identify those illegal sites in the first place.

Closing them down can only be done economically, raiding the premises won't work because they will just move on.
The economical way won't really work on the owners of the site either, they're probably too far removed to be caught anyway.
But if the perv's get too scared to enter their card numbers then the commercial sites will close.

Or am I being optimistic ?
Dave

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#14760 - 05/10/06 03:00 AM Re: NAMBLA?! I can't beleive this!!
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I would assume that the fact you're apparently able to get so much material out there for free would, by itself, put the "pay" sites out of business. But perhaps that's just wishful thinking on my part, heh.

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#14761 - 05/10/06 09:06 AM Re: NAMBLA?! I can't beleive this!!
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A good way would be to run a commercial saying that your card is being tracked.
Use your card and face jail.

Kids are abused because it makes them money.
There is a market, and it is the worst form of abuse possible.

Others must do it for the 'kick' of doing it and not being caught.
As technology advances they will eventually be caught and jailed.

The net is flooded with this stuff, and while people are willing to pay for it, it will never go away.

One way would be to find the sites and work with the credit card companies to block transactions to it.
A warning would be sent to whoever tried the transaction.

They need to be one step ahead, not millions of miles behind.

ste

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#14762 - 05/10/06 10:43 AM Re: NAMBLA?! I can't beleive this!!
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Dave,

A lot of the porn sites seem to be set up in the East European countries once occupied by the USSR. Corruption is extreme in these places, so it's really difficult even to find these places, much less close them down.

In the UK and Germany there are many young guys who have come from Russia, the Balkans, or Poland to study or work. They talk about how bad the economic situation is back home, and in that context out comes the comment that well, of course, things are lots better of you're attractive, young-looking and willing to work the porn sites. These guys weren't willing, so that's why they are in the West.

The real problem is that if a family is in a bad way at home and members begin to head westward, the first to go are the fathers and big brothers, which leaves younger siblings VERY vulnerable. Instead of the closeness and feeling of being sheltered and protected, the youngsters feel cut adrift.

Guess who's sooo happy to help them out with those problems? It's easy money, it looks like a LOT of money, and hey, it's sex.

Larry

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#14763 - 05/10/06 02:13 PM Re: NAMBLA?! I can't beleive this!!
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Quote:
Originally posted by reality2k4:
[QBOne way would be to find the sites and work with the credit card companies to block transactions to it.
A warning would be sent to whoever tried the transaction.

They need to be one step ahead, not millions of miles behind.

ste [/QB]
Ste, they aren't as far behind as you think. Visa has long been able to track transactions realtime. And they are working with the authorities now to use this technology to catch pedos. Small steps.

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#14764 - 05/10/06 04:37 PM Re: NAMBLA?! I can't beleive this!!
reality2k4 Offline
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Nobby,

the sites cannot exist without electronic transactions.
If those payments could not be received, then it would force them to close.

It needs to be done globally to work properly.
Myself, I would never let my kids anywhere near the net without big protection.

I dont go surfing the net, so pretty much dont get it, and use pop up blockers and filters,

ste

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