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#143372 - 02/27/07 03:07 AM 200 years in prison for downloading child porn!!
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200 years for downloading child porn!

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#143375 - 02/27/07 05:47 AM Re: 200 years in prison for downloading child porn!! [Re: Wornoutsoul]
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Yeah, but I do agree that the sentence is far too severe and wholly disproportionate to actual abuse cases.
Pedophilia is rife in Arizona, tough laws or not, ask anyone who lives there,

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#143416 - 02/27/07 04:47 PM Re: 200 years in prison for downloading child porn!! [Re: reality2k4]
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"Hey lets lock this one guy up in jail for 200 years so the public will get distracted from the fact that we are completely helpless to resolve "real" child abuse problems."

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#143418 - 02/27/07 05:02 PM Re: 200 years in prison for downloading child porn!! [Re: Nobbynobs]
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Makes pure mockery when a known abuser fresh back from perping young boys in Austria and other places gets done for thousands of CP images gets four years.

He will prob be out by now, left to prey on our kids,

ste


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#143432 - 02/27/07 07:45 PM Re: 200 years in prison for downloading child porn!! [Re: reality2k4]
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thats way too harsh.


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#143446 - 02/27/07 10:00 PM Re: 200 years in prison for downloading child porn!! [Re: Jarrad]
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so whats the answer? any ideas on how to wipe out child sex abuse without locking perps up? thousands of images,not one or two thousands ,now tell me you believe that looking for pics online was enough to satisfy this guy. would it be too harsh if he was left out there and molested a kid ?or two or two hundred? then the conversation would be about how fucked up the system is cause they had him and let him go! somebody has to do more than just say oh thats terrible that csa stuff ,yeah it screws kids up forever ,but lets get the perp into therapy ,maybe we can save him ,who the hell is saving the kids!? but wont we all feel better about ourselves if we can reform just one perp? the politicly correct world has everything ass backwards ,we should get therapy for the kids and to hell with what happens to the perp! the perp should not be the important thing here!! one of the so called vigilante groups has struck a blow for survivors again ,i'll start a new post on it.

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#143447 - 02/27/07 10:06 PM Re: 200 years in prison for downloading child porn!! [Re: Jarrad]
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I agree with jarrad but I'm POSITIVE there is MUCH MORE here than meets the eye.

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#143482 - 02/28/07 01:58 AM Re: 200 years in prison for downloading child porn!! [Re: Brian]
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While I'm glad the guy got busted, I do believe the sentence was disproportionate in the extreme compared with cases where criminals are basically slapped on the wrist and let go to do it again.

This was the case with my brother-in-law the first time he offended a few years back. He got 6 months on work release for sexually abusing a pair of 10 and 12 year-old brothers. Then last year he was sentenced to 15 years for raping his own son for 4 years beginning around age 4. WTF? And compare that to 200 years for downloading child porn? I'd rather have seen my brother-in-law get the 200 years and the downloader get 15!

Brian may be correct when he says there may be more here than meets the eye, but still!!!

John

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#143487 - 02/28/07 02:30 AM Re: 200 years in prison for downloading child porn!! [Re: WalkingSouth]
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Maybe it is in thought of 'it's a start'. I don't know.

With the one of my abuser who is in prison, me and other person were told, very honest, by police, that he would not be into prison for very long for 'just' sexual abuse. He, he is quite insane and done much more then that, what I can not even say, and include murder to three people. That is what put him into there forever. But for 'just' sexual abuse of me and other person? No, not so much problem of that I guess.

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#143503 - 02/28/07 09:06 AM Re: 200 years in prison for downloading child porn!! [Re: ak]
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he didnt actually hurt a kid. it was just porn.


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#143527 - 02/28/07 12:13 PM Re: 200 years in prison for downloading child porn!! [Re: Jarrad]
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you know that for sure?child porn hurts kids everytime somebody watches it! lots of this sick shit stays on the net according to how many hits a site gets,also as long as sickos download it then sickos will keep making it,john what if you brother in law had got 200 years the first time? yeah his son would still be a normal kid huh? its people like this guy who only looked at pics ,or so it seems people want to think he only did, this is why there is child porn today take away the market and it would disappear. ok lets look at how perps operate ,see when you live with one you learn a lot about how they think ,a guy who is just thinking about maybe molesting ,you know just fantasy,starts downloading kid porn,he looks at the pics ,and by the way its not just pics ,but say thats how he starts ,then he moves on to videos ,now its real now he can see ,so he starts thinking well maybe if im smart i can get away with it,so he watches more and the sick desire keeps growing ,sooner or later hes gonna try it for real ,child porn is how they work up the guts to do it themselves.looking at this stuff is the first step to doing it. this guy did hurt kids because its people like him who give the porn producers a reason to keep making it ,the people who took pics and videos of me were not child molesters they were buissness men ,they never touched me that was left to my sick cousin,so are they not just as guilty? those pics this guy had were some kids life being destroyed ,child porn is about so much more than just the sick acts that are committed. and if you believe this guy never hurt a kid ,i have some beach front property in arizona im looking to sell . also these pics and stuff are used to help convince a kid that its ok ,see that kid did it and hes ok ? my cousin would bring out his videos to get him and his friends kinda in the mood you know?then when they got that fucking insane look in their eyes they would come for me. he used the pics to kinda give his costomers a preview of what he had to sell.just pics? no ,no ,there is so much more to the story than just pics. IT WAS JUST PORN? wow

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#143532 - 02/28/07 01:02 PM Re: 200 years in prison for downloading child porn [Re: shadowkid]
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shadow, you just described indepth what desensitization is. It's because of desensitization that, in my mind, no pornography is a good thing.

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#143536 - 02/28/07 02:22 PM Re: 200 years in prison for downloading child porn [Re: FormerTexan]
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yeah the stuff stay on the internet. i get that. but he didnt physically have sex with a kid. so to me, 200 years is too extreme esp when the sentence for someone acutally does have sex is much less. it doesnt seem right.


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#143539 - 02/28/07 03:29 PM Re: 200 years in prison for downloading child porn [Re: Jarrad]
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Its not right, and it stinks that judges can only give four years for actual abuse to a kid.
Child porn is all over the net and you dont even have to look for it.

If they catch someone with CP then it makes the stats look good for the cops, in that they are tackling the issue when they are not.
Judges are tied with sentencing in my country, and have to use really small sentencing, and even if they knew the damage, they cant do anything about it.

If anyone 'pays' for kiddie porn, they are just paying abusers to abuse and it is unnacceptable.
If there was no money to be made, a lot of it would stop,

ste

Edited to say that one judge ordered an abuser to buy the kid a new bike, phew, does he need a reminder or what!!!



Edited by reality2k4 (02/28/07 03:31 PM)

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#143554 - 02/28/07 05:28 PM Re: 200 years in prison for downloading child porn [Re: reality2k4]
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Technically, if you use peer-to-peer networks or if you run any sort of forum or a website where people can upload to you, then you could possess child porn and not even know it. The only thing these wacky sentences do is build up a culture of fear. I bet a lunch that this is a stunt by the cops and courts in Arizona to deflect attention away from "real" crimes.

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#143586 - 02/28/07 09:16 PM Re: 200 years in prison for downloading child porn [Re: Nobbynobs]
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What about the kid who was forced or coerced to make the porn in the first place? They weren't harmed in producing it?

Every person who comes across that piece of CP has a share in the damage that was done to the kids who were made to create it.


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#143589 - 02/28/07 09:30 PM Re: 200 years in prison for downloading child porn [Re: Dewey2k]
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so only one or two pics is ok? one or two shattered lives is ok? child porn on your pc and you may not even know it?give me a break! ,the only reason this sentence seems whacky is because they dont make it MANDATORY FOR CRIMES AGAINST CHILDREN , now that would be a deterent wouldnt it? you touch a kid or contribute to harming that kid in any way your gone! and having one picture on your pc is a crime against the children. my point exactly dewey.

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#143606 - 02/28/07 11:27 PM Re: 200 years in prison for downloading child porn [Re: shadowkid]
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Child pornography is terrible - I'm the last one to argue with that. Boy, am I. But 200 years? If this guy was making the stuff, sure. But...200 years? This is actually harmful, because people are going to look at that number and call it hysterical.

I believe people who download child porn need to spend time in jail. A goodly amount is preferable. And I'm glad people actually are getting put in jail for it. Until recently, the punishment for illegally downloading music was worse than for downloading kiddy pics. So kudos for people stepping up. But...

...200 years?

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#143610 - 03/01/07 12:18 AM Re: 200 years in prison for downloading child porn [Re: melliferal]
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I have no information about this specific case (other than reading the article), but as I said before, I'm sure that there is MUCH more going on here than meets the eye.

My guess (and it's an educated guess) would be that this guy is an active pedophile and the police and prosecutors know it. They either did not have enough physical evidence and/or witness statements to feel confident of a conviction OR much more likely, they were holding off on filing more charges depending what happened in sentencing on the possession charges. Possession of child porn in this case was a slam-dunk!! They knew that they had multiple possession charges that would give this guy some SERIOUS time. It's very possible that the prosecutors were trying to protect the victims from more trauma from having to testify in court.

If this guy comes up with an appeal, (other than a 8th amendment argument against cruel and unusual punishment, which the US Supreme Court already refused to hear), and his conviction gets overturned, the prosecutor still has every right to file the other charges that were held back. The US legal system has some major flaws! But once in a while, this flawed system can be manipulated in a way that justice is served - and served very well!

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#143638 - 03/01/07 11:17 AM Re: 200 years in prison for downloading child porn [Re: Brian]
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The sentence is still too harsh.
One known perp who was openly running a pedo web community was found with more than 50.000 cp pics and got four years, even though he advocates sex with kids (boys).

If anyone should get life, it should be him and his cronies, and he will be out soon and on the run again from the cops,

ste


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#143646 - 03/01/07 11:52 AM Re: 200 years in prison for downloading child porn!! [Re: Jarrad]
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I agree with Jerrad. Although possessing child porn is a very bad thing, it could also be an abuse survivor who is trying to identify with his experiences. This is where it gets so "ify". There was this huge thread on porn that got a bit out of hand.

Often, as we go from victim to survivor mode, our "acting out" behaviors have led us to porn- which some of us have used to re-victimize and re-stimulate events from our original abuse. This is a fact that happens more often than not.

A criminal molester who actually abuses children should be getting a sentence like that.

Still, there is a side of me that likes the major punishment, while it fights with me that a non-recovering abuse survivor could get caught in a trap like that.

Geeze, what to think? I thinks its too harsh a sentence. But what do I know.

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#143679 - 03/01/07 03:45 PM Re: 200 years in prison for downloading child porn [Re: philobat]
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Quote:
Edited to say that one judge ordered an abuser to buy the kid a new bike, phew, does he need a reminder or what!!!


Yeah, I am quoting myself here, but what freakin judge would order that the kid got a present to remind them of the abuse
Candy is not good enough these days!,

ste

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#143785 - 03/02/07 02:41 PM Re: 200 years in prison for downloading child porn [Re: reality2k4]
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ste,

This judge obviously just doesn't "get it". I understand and share in your frustration!

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#143795 - 03/02/07 04:16 PM Re: 200 years in prison for downloading child porn [Re: Brian]
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Brian, yeah it really got me, and even if the Judge ordered he pay a million, it would not suffice to losing your childhood!
I just wondered if the other kids asked "who"? Bought it.

The mind boggles??

ste


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#144241 - 03/06/07 01:09 PM Re: 200 years in prison for downloading child porn [Re: Nobbynobs]
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If there was no demand for child porn then the child porn would not to such a big money maker. Fuck he is as quity on abuse the kids in the phot6os as the person who took the photos.

Tose are real kids in those photos so they where abused. Tom

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#426571 - 02/26/13 02:42 PM Re: 200 years in prison for downloading child porn [Re: Wornoutsoul]
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I know this is an old thread but I can't understand how anyone could say "he didn't actually abuse a kid, it was just porn." I agree with Muldoon, the producers of porn abuse kids, so that the receivers can "enjoy" it. The fact those pictures are floating around re-abuses the victim every time they think about it, or worse have to see it. How sad is that and some people say it's just porn. No, it is hurt branded on someone's life and keeps getting reapplied every time the picture is shared. frown
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#426600 - 02/26/13 07:09 PM Re: 200 years in prison for downloading child porn [Re: reality2k4]
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Originally Posted By: reality2k4
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Edited to say that one judge ordered an abuser to buy the kid a new bike, phew, does he need a reminder or what!!!


Yeah, I am quoting myself here, but what freakin judge would order that the kid got a present to remind them of the abuse mad
Candy is not good enough these days!,

ste

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this hit me hard!!!
feel like i was jsut sucker-punched.
took my breath away - literally - thought i was going to black out.
the ONLY gift the step-dad (1st abuser) EVER gave me that i liked - was a new bike. everything else seemed like it was meant for someone else - who he wanted me to be - instead of who i really was.
and now that is spoiled, too.
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#426609 - 02/26/13 08:38 PM Re: 200 years in prison for downloading child porn [Re: BuffaloCO]
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I know this is an old thread but I can't understand how anyone could say "he didn't actually abuse a kid, it was just porn." I agree with Muldoon, the producers of porn abuse kids, so that the receivers can "enjoy" it. The fact those pictures are floating around re-abuses the victim every time they think about it, or worse have to see it. How sad is that and some people say it's just porn. No, it is hurt branded on someone's life and keeps getting reapplied every time the picture is shared. frown


2007 when this thread was started I was still a kid being abused by a guy who was taking pictures and videos of me and sharing them with the whole internet. I would love him to have got 200 years. I can't remember exactly but it was really pathetic the sentence he did get. Something like 2 years for making them and 18 months for distrubuting them. And that was to be served concurrently (i think thats the right word?) with the rest of his sentence. Do you think that's enough? Because I don't. My pictures will be on the internet and on people's hard drives maybe forever. Like even when I'm dead they'll still be there. I can't even search for them and try and get them taken down because then i'd be arrested. (And I wouldn't want to look at them anyway)

I've heard people say loads of stupid things about it just being porn and totally forgetting about the fact some kid had to be abused to make it. I don't even like calling it porn, because its not. Its pictures of kids being abused. I can't really let my mind think too much about it or I will go insane. I do feel re-abused thinking about people looking at my picture. If people look at me in public I always think they're thinking "hey isnt that the kid from those kiddie porn videos?" I know I don't look like that kid now, but it makes me want to grow a big amish style beard and just hide forever. My girlfriend complains she doesn't have any pictures of me. I have a camera now so I'm the one taking pictures, but I feel weird and voyeuristic with it. So yeah, those people who say looking at pictures isn't the same as abusing someone, you're wrong. How can you ever put this thing to rest when evidence of it is continually circulating around for people to "enjoy".

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#426894 - 03/01/13 11:26 PM Re: 200 years in prison for downloading child porn [Re: Muldoon]
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I'm going to have to say that 200 years for possession of KP is disproportionate, unless the authorities more or less knew he was abusing children himself and were trying to save a victim or victims from having to testify in a molestation trial or something like that. Yeah, there is probably "more than meets the eye" here. KP possession should be a crime and everything but a lot of people don't get 200 year sentences for first-degree murder, let alone for beating off to pictures of naked kids on the internet. When it comes to actual producers of child porn, the people behind the camera, I don't really see ANY sentence as being to harsh. That means up to and including dangling from the end of a rope. (Not that we execute people in that fashion anymore but you get my point.)

Originally Posted By: Muldoon
If there was no demand for child porn then the child porn would not to such a big money maker.


Child porn isn't a money maker at all. I know I've heard media reports that child porn is a "billion dollar industry" or something like that but any such report is probably just pure sensationalism. That doesn't mean KP isn't a problem and isn't prolific on the internet. It is, and it needs to be fought as much as possible. KP is evil, sick, abusive and wrong. Please don't think I'm minimizing any of that. It's just the money part that I think isn't true. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that >90% of KP consists of movies and pictures taken by random perps, of children they are abusing, which they then upload on the internet for other pervs to download and share for free. That doesn't make it any less heinous, that just means there is no real "industry" there. There may have been a viable commercial child porn industry 20+ years ago but I think that's mostly been stamped out. Could be wrong about that but I don't think I am. All that being said, I suppose when it comes to the harm KP causes it's victims, the amount of money made or lack there of is neither here nor there.


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#426902 - 03/02/13 01:17 AM Re: 200 years in prison for downloading child porn!! [Re: Jarrad]
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Originally Posted By: Jarrad
he didnt actually hurt a kid. it was just porn.


Not so! I was abused in the making of kiddie porn. He took the movies while boys "performed". I was one of the boys. I was very young. It caused tremendous damage to me:

Dissociative disorder (this alone was a huge problem)
Depersonalization disorder
Life-long problems in socializing with others
Depression
Sexual problems
Led to being abused at other times
Low self esteem
Reading problem - Dyslexia
ADHD - type of problem

It started about 70 years ago. It went on for about 7 months about once per week. Nobody noticed or interrupted. I'm still working at getting over it. So!! What was my sentence? 70 years? How many boys were abused by that guy with me? 3. So, what is 4 X 70 = 280 years eek

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#426943 - 03/02/13 12:56 PM Re: 200 years in prison for downloading child porn!! [Re: Wornoutsoul]
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Yes Puffer, terrible crime is done while making such pictures and videos and no one should look and search for such material on internet and there is no penalty that could restore damage done to victims frown

I'm not legal expert but I'm genuinely interested to learn more about it as evidences of it's inadequacy are around us on every corner (no matter on part of world where we are living) and in case of abuse it is more than important to have things working.
So I found interesting debate about this particular case which is almost cited as example of disproportion. Some experts said that this person would get lower sentence actually if he made some of those videos and there is source of talks and questions.
Here is the link:
http://sentencing.typepad.com/sentencing_law_and_policy/2006/05/what_ever_happe.html

One of the things that I've learned is that Mr. Berger was member of couple of sites from which some had asked to have 10,000 images to become member which is more than gross, however evidences have never found expect those 20 pictures...

Just idea for thinking I have more questions here, would be nice to learn who allowed existence of such sites to operate and access it, wonder if some of them were establish in US or by US citizens? Has modern society made any step to fight of such behavior? I don't thinks so, beside political debates and fights between countries institution/organization that should introduce law enforcement on internet on global scale doesn't exist frown

And secondly I would like to learn if there were more prosecutions of people who made such videos as well if any of children were saved from those photos.
Interesting would be also to learn how and why one legal system allows individuals with pedophile tendencies expressing their views and organizing associations and groups trough different entities and internet sites.
Other good question that I've recently just become aware is how is possible that same legal system made just couple of prosecutions related to priest's abuse of children when there are so many known cases of abuse and huge amount of money is paid. It seems like only money matters and all that looks so corrupted and rotten. Again because on nature of such crimes and people who did it we are talking about fueling global problems with such enforcement on "local" level.

I can only conclude that I would like to see much much more done in protecting children and victims of abuse frown


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