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#143527 - 02/28/07 12:13 PM Re: 200 years in prison for downloading child porn!! [Re: Jarrad]
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you know that for sure?child porn hurts kids everytime somebody watches it! lots of this sick shit stays on the net according to how many hits a site gets,also as long as sickos download it then sickos will keep making it,john what if you brother in law had got 200 years the first time? yeah his son would still be a normal kid huh? its people like this guy who only looked at pics ,or so it seems people want to think he only did, this is why there is child porn today take away the market and it would disappear. ok lets look at how perps operate ,see when you live with one you learn a lot about how they think ,a guy who is just thinking about maybe molesting ,you know just fantasy,starts downloading kid porn,he looks at the pics ,and by the way its not just pics ,but say thats how he starts ,then he moves on to videos ,now its real now he can see ,so he starts thinking well maybe if im smart i can get away with it,so he watches more and the sick desire keeps growing ,sooner or later hes gonna try it for real ,child porn is how they work up the guts to do it themselves.looking at this stuff is the first step to doing it. this guy did hurt kids because its people like him who give the porn producers a reason to keep making it ,the people who took pics and videos of me were not child molesters they were buissness men ,they never touched me that was left to my sick cousin,so are they not just as guilty? those pics this guy had were some kids life being destroyed ,child porn is about so much more than just the sick acts that are committed. and if you believe this guy never hurt a kid ,i have some beach front property in arizona im looking to sell . also these pics and stuff are used to help convince a kid that its ok ,see that kid did it and hes ok ? my cousin would bring out his videos to get him and his friends kinda in the mood you know?then when they got that fucking insane look in their eyes they would come for me. he used the pics to kinda give his costomers a preview of what he had to sell.just pics? no ,no ,there is so much more to the story than just pics. IT WAS JUST PORN? wow

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#143532 - 02/28/07 01:02 PM Re: 200 years in prison for downloading child porn [Re: shadowkid]
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shadow, you just described indepth what desensitization is. It's because of desensitization that, in my mind, no pornography is a good thing.

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#143536 - 02/28/07 02:22 PM Re: 200 years in prison for downloading child porn [Re: FormerTexan]
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yeah the stuff stay on the internet. i get that. but he didnt physically have sex with a kid. so to me, 200 years is too extreme esp when the sentence for someone acutally does have sex is much less. it doesnt seem right.


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#143539 - 02/28/07 03:29 PM Re: 200 years in prison for downloading child porn [Re: Jarrad]
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Its not right, and it stinks that judges can only give four years for actual abuse to a kid.
Child porn is all over the net and you dont even have to look for it.

If they catch someone with CP then it makes the stats look good for the cops, in that they are tackling the issue when they are not.
Judges are tied with sentencing in my country, and have to use really small sentencing, and even if they knew the damage, they cant do anything about it.

If anyone 'pays' for kiddie porn, they are just paying abusers to abuse and it is unnacceptable.
If there was no money to be made, a lot of it would stop,

ste

Edited to say that one judge ordered an abuser to buy the kid a new bike, phew, does he need a reminder or what!!!



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#143554 - 02/28/07 05:28 PM Re: 200 years in prison for downloading child porn [Re: reality2k4]
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Technically, if you use peer-to-peer networks or if you run any sort of forum or a website where people can upload to you, then you could possess child porn and not even know it. The only thing these wacky sentences do is build up a culture of fear. I bet a lunch that this is a stunt by the cops and courts in Arizona to deflect attention away from "real" crimes.

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#143586 - 02/28/07 09:16 PM Re: 200 years in prison for downloading child porn [Re: Nobbynobs]
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What about the kid who was forced or coerced to make the porn in the first place? They weren't harmed in producing it?

Every person who comes across that piece of CP has a share in the damage that was done to the kids who were made to create it.


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#143589 - 02/28/07 09:30 PM Re: 200 years in prison for downloading child porn [Re: Dewey2k]
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so only one or two pics is ok? one or two shattered lives is ok? child porn on your pc and you may not even know it?give me a break! ,the only reason this sentence seems whacky is because they dont make it MANDATORY FOR CRIMES AGAINST CHILDREN , now that would be a deterent wouldnt it? you touch a kid or contribute to harming that kid in any way your gone! and having one picture on your pc is a crime against the children. my point exactly dewey.

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#143606 - 02/28/07 11:27 PM Re: 200 years in prison for downloading child porn [Re: shadowkid]
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Child pornography is terrible - I'm the last one to argue with that. Boy, am I. But 200 years? If this guy was making the stuff, sure. But...200 years? This is actually harmful, because people are going to look at that number and call it hysterical.

I believe people who download child porn need to spend time in jail. A goodly amount is preferable. And I'm glad people actually are getting put in jail for it. Until recently, the punishment for illegally downloading music was worse than for downloading kiddy pics. So kudos for people stepping up. But...

...200 years?

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#143610 - 03/01/07 12:18 AM Re: 200 years in prison for downloading child porn [Re: melliferal]
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I have no information about this specific case (other than reading the article), but as I said before, I'm sure that there is MUCH more going on here than meets the eye.

My guess (and it's an educated guess) would be that this guy is an active pedophile and the police and prosecutors know it. They either did not have enough physical evidence and/or witness statements to feel confident of a conviction OR much more likely, they were holding off on filing more charges depending what happened in sentencing on the possession charges. Possession of child porn in this case was a slam-dunk!! They knew that they had multiple possession charges that would give this guy some SERIOUS time. It's very possible that the prosecutors were trying to protect the victims from more trauma from having to testify in court.

If this guy comes up with an appeal, (other than a 8th amendment argument against cruel and unusual punishment, which the US Supreme Court already refused to hear), and his conviction gets overturned, the prosecutor still has every right to file the other charges that were held back. The US legal system has some major flaws! But once in a while, this flawed system can be manipulated in a way that justice is served - and served very well!

Brian



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#143638 - 03/01/07 11:17 AM Re: 200 years in prison for downloading child porn [Re: Brian]
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The sentence is still too harsh.
One known perp who was openly running a pedo web community was found with more than 50.000 cp pics and got four years, even though he advocates sex with kids (boys).

If anyone should get life, it should be him and his cronies, and he will be out soon and on the run again from the cops,

ste


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