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#140602 - 02/07/07 01:01 PM something i found this morning
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#140606 - 02/07/07 01:17 PM Re: something i found this morning *DELETED* [Re: Jarrad]
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#140612 - 02/07/07 02:01 PM Re: something i found this morning [Re: jacobtk]
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Interesting article, Jarrad.

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#140675 - 02/07/07 09:08 PM Re: something i found this morning [Re: FormerTexan]
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i don't see the down side of this?

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#140723 - 02/08/07 08:28 AM Re: something i found this morning [Re: shadowkid]
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the down side is that if the penalty for murder and child molestation is the same, perps are more likely to just kill their victims. because dead kids cant talk...

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#140725 - 02/08/07 08:50 AM Re: something i found this morning [Re: batcountry]
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good point ,but i dont think that perps consider what could happen to them if they get caught, murder and child molestation are the same,a kid dies even if hes still alive he will never be that same kid again. i mean religon says they will go to hell ,and they know what can happen to baby rapers in prison ,but that dont stop them .a lethal injection stops them period.if a perp is gonna kill the kid,he will, i dont think he would think well if i let him live i'll only go to prison ,so maybe i wont kill him

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#140727 - 02/08/07 08:59 AM Re: something i found this morning [Re: shadowkid]
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some may think that, we dont really know what goes on in other people's heads. i just dont like the idea of anything that could increase child murders. maybe some perp cant control himself and molests a kid, and then after he gets panicked and thinks about the consequences, and thinks that if he kills the kid he is more likely to not get caught.

i dont support the death penalty anyways, but i know thats irrelevant, because some people do so im not going to argue that here, but aside from that i think this law could be a bad idea. it also means that kids may be less likely to report it if their abuser was a friend or family member because they dont want them to die. it puts WAY too much pressure on the kid as well..

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#140735 - 02/08/07 11:28 AM Re: something i found this morning [Re: batcountry]
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Batcounrty,

I not against the death penalty in general but you make some very valid points!

Brian

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#140736 - 02/08/07 11:37 AM Re: something i found this morning [Re: Brian]
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Actually, it one of the best arguments against the death penalty I've ever encountered, and I'm on the fence regarding capital punishment.

John

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#140747 - 02/08/07 01:41 PM Re: something i found this morning [Re: WalkingSouth]
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I am against the death penalty. I don't believe that because a jury finds you guilty or innocent that you are in fact guilty or innocent. Finding guilt or innocence in our legal system is more who is the better attorney, the prosecutor or the defense attorney. Or, which side has the better evidence. The prospect of sending a possibly innocent person to their death frightens me.

Now, having said that I remember wondering why the cops didn't go ahead shoot Devlin. I do think that it is a very weak argument that the death penalty is a deterrent. Perps don't care. And, I agree that it might cause a perp to kill a child to avoid getting caught.

Bad idea in my opinion, though some things are worse than death. I think that a child molester should get life in prison. One count, one life term and I mean the rest of their life with out parole or appeal.

-lost

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