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#13254 - 10/17/02 10:31 PM discusted
rolling_is_life Offline
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Registered: 10/16/02
Posts: 53
Loc: Olympia, Washington
This place is a GOD DAMN JOKE if u people condone what just happend, im in the chat room lobby, and someone..i won't name names in public. walks in a FUCKING BRAGGS ABOUT PUSHING A MALE STUDENT AGAINST A LOCKER AND FORCING HIM SELF ON HIM AND KISSING HIM. I could NOT belive it. And his excuse: oh, he called me a name, and they make fun of me. THIS IS HOW SEXUAL ABUSERS START. And the moderator kicks me outa the room for yellin at this kid. I am discusted with this entire thing. when other memebers start supporting him. If thats how things run here..its a JOKE

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#13255 - 10/17/02 10:43 PM Re: discusted
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Registered: 09/26/02
Posts: 49
Loc: illinois
hey, keith, that's not how this place works. honestly. i'm sorry you had to go thru that. i haven't been in the chat room yet, and personally i'd like to know why something like that would be condoned. but believe me, keith, that's not the usual way things go here.

i know you're angry right now, but try to calm down, okay? you're right, that is how abuse starts, and it shouldn't have happened, but i really think you need to calm down, for your own sake, okay?

jake


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#13256 - 10/17/02 11:00 PM Re: discusted
rolling_is_life Offline
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Registered: 10/16/02
Posts: 53
Loc: Olympia, Washington
agian jake, no offense to you, but calming down and shutting up is how these kind of things go by unotticed and I won't have it. NO way in hell. I can't have had the abuse that I had and sit there and listen to that, and I have learned more on the kids reasoning, but my veiw is still the same.

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#13258 - 10/18/02 04:50 PM Re: discusted
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To all,

We will be checking the tran>

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#13259 - 10/18/02 05:48 PM Re: discusted
Don-NY Offline
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Registered: 08/06/02
Posts: 546
Loc: Long Island, NY
ADMINISTRATORS:

Early Wednesday morning, sometime between 1 & 3 am, there was another incident in the chat room lobby which was uncomfortable and should be addressed.

It was between two members who I hadn't seen there before and I had the distinct impression, from their converstaion, that they are rather young - teens or early 20's.

That incident involved using a very negative word to describe the possible sexual orientation of a perpetrator. The word was immediately apologized for by the person who used it, and no one called them to task for using it, but if I recall correctly, it was used at least one more time in the next few minutes.

I happen to agree with Keith, in principle, but I guess his reactions got a bit intense.

KEITH:
Next time, let the moderator know what's going on. You can messge them privately - they may have been in another room and not aware of what was being said.

I'm not saying to keep silent. I think you did the right thing in speaking out against what you describe hearing. But you have to remember that your words have power and impact too. And the moderator who removed you is another human being who may have been as upset and angry by how you spoke as you were by what you heard.

As you can see, there are tran>
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#13260 - 10/18/02 06:56 PM Re: discusted
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Registered: 07/15/02
Posts: 2080
Loc: Milwaukee, WI

Hi Keith,

I am saddened and angered that the stuff that happened to you happened at all. You are a gutsy young man, dealing with something no one should ever have to deal with.

It is unfortunate that anyone here would talk about exploiting another guy and/or brag about it. We want you to be veery safe here. We want you to be able to vent the rage you are feeling for what was done to you.

Are there moerators on the chat room at the wee hours of the morning? Maybe some west coast guys who stay up late out there could be moderators at these odd times.

When I am struggling with terror I am unable to sleep. I can see how guys would come here at all hours.

I am really sorry that happened to you Keith. We love and respect you and want you too be an integral part of us.

Bob

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#13261 - 10/18/02 07:35 PM Re: discusted
rolling_is_life Offline
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Registered: 10/16/02
Posts: 53
Loc: Olympia, Washington
Things have changed a GREAT deal after that incedent. Me and the other person made out peace. And are talking regularly now. I dissagree with his actions, but do know WHY he did them and am compassionate to those reasons. No actions are nessicary I think.

-Keith

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#13262 - 10/18/02 07:39 PM Re: discusted
rolling_is_life Offline
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Registered: 10/16/02
Posts: 53
Loc: Olympia, Washington
haha i made a weird typo..we made OUR peace..just thought id correct it

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#13263 - 10/18/02 07:58 PM Re: discusted
Cement Offline
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Registered: 06/05/02
Posts: 740
Loc: Southern California
Well done, Keith.

I think we all have similar reactions: we get mad, we yell and scream, maybe, but the important thing is to try to minimize the hurt. Talking does that, community does that, shared experience does that.

I join the chorus of voices and welcome you here. I also share their sadness that you should have to be here at all.

Peace to all of us

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#13264 - 10/18/02 08:16 PM Re: discusted
Lloydy Offline
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Registered: 04/17/02
Posts: 7071
Loc: England Shropshire
Nice one Keith, it's a strong man who makes peace.

Lloydy

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