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#123060 - 12/10/06 09:00 PM Who was the first
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Hi. How are you?

One thought came to mind. What do you think?

WHO WAS THE FIRST, PERP OR SURVIVOR?

I think perp, oh no, survivor was the first, but then there must have been the perp.

So it goes down to the perp being the frist thing, no matter if he/she was a survivor himself, or maybe just a sick guy.

Alexey

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#123061 - 12/10/06 09:13 PM Re: Who was the first
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Alexey, its like the chicken and egg sceanario.
The oldest know writing from a survivor was Satymiah, he wrote some really powerful stuff if I can find it.

His utterings I think are from one to two thousand years old.
The perp has to come first, and then others will follow in the dirty deeds.

Everyone is shock horror about it, but given the chance a lot of them would join in, that is how mans evil can surface,

ste

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#123062 - 12/12/06 07:11 PM Re: Who was the first
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Ste,

Thanks. It is interesting.

I only heard about the book "No Longer Human" by a Japanese survivor. It was the novel.

It is exiting (and sad) how little info I had got on the subject of males abused sexually in childhood before I joined MS and read some professional reading.

It seems that the old men abused as kids are a real rarity and an informational precious treasure.

Imagine how would words of the speaking freely man who was abused 200 years ago empower - and move - me, you, others...

Really interesting. It is a hit.

Alexey

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#123063 - 12/12/06 07:13 PM Re: Who was the first
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Brothers, let's speak on the public about our humiliation and our bravery!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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#123064 - 12/12/06 09:00 PM Re: Who was the first
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jesus was the first one to speak openly about abuse

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#123065 - 12/12/06 09:40 PM Re: Who was the first
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adam, jesus is the guy who keeps picking you and all of us up when we fall, honest,

ste

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#123066 - 12/12/06 11:02 PM Re: Who was the first
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gosh - i would think of Cane and Able -

one would think the other was the perp
and he the victim -

but then the other killed the favourite -

for jealousy

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#123067 - 12/12/06 11:46 PM Re: Who was the first
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you said it ste jesus was just a guy not a god not the son of god just a guy like you and me if i see him that way then it makes sense that he couldnt summon up the wrath of god to save me or himself. why put the responsibility for the whole world on a simple mans shoulders? also when i see what jesus did how much more does it mean if he was just a mortal man? why is it so hard to believe that a man could be like jesus was?

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#123068 - 12/13/06 12:59 AM Re: Who was the first
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there were probably cavemen abusing cavemen children... it's a sad fact of life i think...

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#123069 - 12/13/06 01:00 AM Re: Who was the first
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There are all kinds of references in ancient Greek writing to pederasty and child abuse, although the Greeks were pretty accepting of the whole boy-love thing for a long time. I seem to remember reading that it was a crime amongst the Vikings though.

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