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#1011 - 03/25/03 02:04 PM Weild News
Little_E Offline
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Registered: 11/14/02
Posts: 169
Loc: London UK
Hi guys.

I just found this site. It has a lot of very good articals written. you may or may not want to look at it, depends on how your feeling.

http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,52345,00.html

Take care!

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#1012 - 03/25/03 02:16 PM Re: Weild News
Nathan LaChine Offline
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Registered: 02/22/03
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very sad very fucking sad.


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#1013 - 03/25/03 03:39 PM Re: Weild News
Wuamei Offline
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Oh God that is so sick. \:\(

From what the article says I think the intent of the people who run these sites is clearly illegal even if the content is not, which to me is bullshit. If it's not illegal, it sure oughta be.

And dammit I just ate lunch!...

Victor

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#1014 - 03/25/03 05:22 PM Re: Weild News
Lloydy Offline
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Loc: England Shropshire
Somewhere people study the laws, find the loopholes and exploit them. And then lawyers defend them.

Dave

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#1015 - 03/25/03 10:33 PM Re: Weild News
Jess Offline
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Registered: 01/26/03
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Loc: California
Lawyers also prosecute them.
Thank God!

Sincerely, Jess.


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#1016 - 03/26/03 12:01 PM Re: Weild News
zadok1 Offline
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Registered: 11/05/02
Posts: 188
Loc: Ohio
some people make me sick....everyone knows what's going on, and it is a sad world that can't stop it. art my ass...

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#1017 - 03/26/03 12:43 PM Re: Weild News
Lloydy Offline
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Jess
thank you for reminding me that there are good people out there as well, I must remember to look at the positive side as well.

Dave :rolleyes:

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#1018 - 03/26/03 12:50 PM Re: Weild News
Mike Church Offline
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God I wished that I had not looked. It makes me sick. It is too bad that we cannot be vigilantes. Better yet we need a hacker amongst us to get the names of the owners and subscribers so we could expose them.

But on the other hand we would probably go to jail for defamation of character or sone other goddamned reason.

All we can do I suspect is help the children photgraphed pick up the pieces of their lives. My god where is the justice in all this.

As Zadok1 says art my ass!!

Any lawyer who would defend such shit is what I would characterize as a low life bottom feeder.

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#1019 - 03/26/03 02:32 PM Re: Weild News
Wuamei Offline
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Yeah, if that's art then I just made a masterpiece in the toilet...

...becuz that's a bunch of shit!

And your right, Mike, lawyers who defend such shit are bottom feeders...

...cause I just flushed em down the commode along with their shit! \:D

Aaahhhh, that feels much better now!

Victor

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#1020 - 03/26/03 02:52 PM Re: Weild News
moo2 Offline
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Registered: 01/31/03
Posts: 82
Loc: pottsboro,texas
Those articles are just sick!!!! Lots of times I just wish those Perps would just die + let everyone else finally live. Those kids can not know what their lives will grow into. I sometimes wander do the Perps know?!? The Perps probally do not care simply because their needs. Sorry but I know it feels like needs to them. It is sick just to understand how many people want to even look at kids in a sexual pose. Guys, I better go before I get depressed.
WITH MUCH LOVE, :p
Kim


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#1021 - 03/26/03 08:43 PM Re: Weild News
cog Offline
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Registered: 01/10/03
Posts: 42
sigh.
Everything else has been said.
What a mess. I can't help but sadly wonder: How many of those children that are photographed are "only" photographed? My guess is that the odds are not in their favor.


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#1022 - 03/26/03 10:30 PM Re: Weild News
The Dean Offline
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Loc: Milwaukee, WI
If you see a site where you believe underage kids are exploited you can really get action at the NCMEC. They do get at them.

There is a phony site you need to be careful of. I will look up the name and give it to you. It is run by the child porn industry and claims to get the sites shut down. I reported a site of VERY young kids and they wrote that it was not clear to them if the children were under age!!!!!!!!!!

I do not think it is good to go looking for sites. But if a person is on a site that is supposedly for adults and they have kids--slam them through NCMEC.

Bob

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#1023 - 03/29/03 01:30 PM Re: Weild News
gg1978 Offline
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Registered: 05/30/01
Posts: 14
Well, both http://www.*********.com and http://www.**********.com both resolve to the IP address ***.***.**.** ..

THis information is public domain, which you can get at http://www.arin.net/whois .

Search results for: ***.***.**.**


OrgName: RIPE Network Coordination Centre
OrgID: RIPE
Address: Singel 258
Address: 1016 AB
City: Amsterdam
StateProv:
PostalCode:
Country: NL

NetRange: 213.0.0.0 - 213.255.255.255
CIDR: 213.0.0.0/8
NetName: RIPE-213
NetHandle: NET-213-0-0-0-1
Parent:
NetType: Allocated to RIPE NCC
NameServer: NS.RIPE.NET
NameServer: AUTH00.NS.UU.NET
NameServer: NS3.NIC.FR
NameServer: SUNIC.SUNET.SE
NameServer: MUNNARI.OZ.AU
NameServer: NS.APNIC.NET
NameServer: SVC00.APNIC.NET
Comment: These addresses have been further assigned to users in
Comment: the RIPE NCC region. Contact information can be found in
Comment: the RIPE database at whois.ripe.net
Comment:
RegDate:
Updated: 2002-09-11

OrgTechHandle: RIPE-NCC-ARIN
OrgTechName: RIPE NCC Hostmaster
OrgTechPhone: +31 20 535 4444
OrgTechEmail: nicdb@ripe.net

# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2003-03-28 20:00
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.

Name: RIPE NCC Hostmaster
Handle: RIPE-NCC-ARIN
Company: Reseaux IP Europeens Network Co-ordination Centre
Address: Singel 258
City: 1016 AB Amsterdam
StateProv:
PostalCode:
Country: NL
Comment: http://www.ripe.net/nicdb.html
RegDate:
Updated: 2001-06-07
Phone: +31 20 535 4444 (Office)
Email: nicdb@ripe.net


As you can see, the site doesn't appear to fall under US jurisdiction, as it appears to be from Amsterdam..


The information above just shows that the site is in Europe. RIPENCC is NOT the bad guy here, they just assign IP addresses to hostnames.

BTW, you can get better info than this, including actual names.. I'm not going to post that info though. But the instructions on how to do so are in the block of text above..


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#1024 - 03/29/03 02:27 PM Re: Weild News
Lloydy Offline
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I have edited the two URL's in the previous post.

They link straight into child porn sites which we cannot condone in any way.

Dave ( Lloydy )

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#1025 - 03/30/03 08:17 AM Re: Weild News
orodo Offline
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Loc: Imladris, The Safe Haven of Ar...
If anybody knows how to set and co-ordinate "denial of Service attack".....remember that too would be inappropriate (wink, wink)...

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#1026 - 03/30/03 09:06 PM Re: Weild News
The Dean Offline
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Loc: Milwaukee, WI
Way to go Dave. Let the FBI find those sites. I think that it is illegal to download any of those sites.

Bob

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